Why Come Here and the Biblical Plagues 2
Kinkajou:. Can we talk a little bit more about why you think the aliens should hide from us?
Dr Xxxxx: . We had mentioned human violence and Paill Spectrum is a possible reason for the aliens to maintain themselves in hiding. Certainly, human beings can be incredibly violent, but at the same time they can be wonderfully saintly as well. A dichotomy which we resolve well every day. But this is behaviour which someone looking at us would have difficulty understanding or working with.
Kinkajou:. There was one UFO report where a human being reached for his 0.44 caliber carbine, took aim and fired at the alien ship. Almost instantly, the craft emitted a beam of green light which struck the man, making him fall to the ground unconscious. Burn marks were noticed in the form of a perfect circle – 15 cm in diameter on the torso and head. Blood test later revealed that the man was suffering from leukaemia. He died within months.
Goo: . It seems a clumsy weapon.
Erasmus: . Yes relying on what appears to be a large dose of ionising radiation – causing burns in the short term, and DNA damage and marrow damage in the long-term, resulting in death – suggests the use of equipment (the beam) for a purpose for which was not created. A rifle knocks you down and keeps you down quickly. The beam may well knock you down, but it takes a long time to kill you, a situation which suggests that the beam was not primarily developed as a weapon.
My explanation would be that the situation suggests that a beam used primarily for the generation of drive propulsion was redirected for use as a weapon. Its clumsiness suggests that it is not designed for this purpose.
Goo: . The more common evidence is of aliens being ripped apart by mobs, shot at or being physically assaulted and being treated with fear and aggression by humans. The aliens more typically act with much more restraint than by zapping someone with a ray gun.
Erasmus: . We talked about things from our perspective. Why do we think the aliens are here? We also need to consider from the aliens perspective. What are the aliens telling us about their reasons for being here?
Kinkajou:. One contactee was told that the traffic (aliens) is only a thin trickle in the vast highway of the universe. Most vehicles are robot controlled probes.
Erasmus: . Even sending robot probes cost money. You need a reason to do it.
Kinkajou:. And strangely of all the reports of UFO/ETFO contacts, robots are one thing that is never mentioned. There is mention of some small discs or small spheres which could well be mobile data collecting machines. But there are definitely never any “human scale” robots.
Erasmus: . I think what’s impressive here is that these things (small discs or small spheres), may well use the same propulsion science as the larger UFO/ETFOS. So the technology is quite capable of being miniaturised. Fusion as an energy generation sites has always been thought to be capable of being miniaturised. And gravity engines (see our site ENKgravity.com) are likely to be quite capable of being miniaturised as well.
George Adamski
Kinkajou:. One of the famous alien contactees was George Adamski in the Mojave Desert in 1952. He reports meeting a short alien (5’3” tall) with smooth tanned skin, long blonde hair wearing a brown one-piece suit with a broad belt and red shoes. He shook hands with George and told him his name, and that he came from Venus. He and his fellow Venetians lived a pure spiritual God-fearing way of life. They came to Earth to warn this mankind of the dangers of nuclear energy and pollution. On this occasion, photos were prohibited.
George Adamski also describes being taken to visit the moon. On the moon there were forests, lakes, wooded valleys and snow covered Lunar Mountains. The citizens of the moon were strolling down sidewalks in the lunar cities.
George Adamski over the period of the contact was provided with a number of photographs which were not proven to be false. However, as you may have guessed by now, the story he reported that he was given, was not corroborated by fact or by independent witnesses.
Erasmus: . Let’s just quickly go through some of the odd assertions above. It was 1967 before Apollo 11 set foot upon the moon. In 1952, the composition of the moon was the stuff of romance. Today we are very confident that the moon is an airless and largely waterless lump of meteorite and radiation scarred rock. There is no life. There certainly are no forests, lakes, wooded valleys and snow covered mountains. There are certainly no cities with their citizens strolling down sidewalks.
Goo: . Anything is possible in “domes” under the surface.
Kinkajou:. . True. But them how would you know you are on the moon.
Goo: . Gravity.
Kinkajou:. It is obvious that the aliens can generate gravity, so you cannot rely on the perception of gravity to be evidence that you are on the moon. It could be just another scheme of “misdirection”.
Goo: . Why bother.
Kinkajou:. Perhaps misdirection and discrediting witnesses is the key. Certainly, no one in in this day would believe any story that there are people living on the moon in cities.
Goo: . Not on the surface of the moon in any case. Any habitat would need to be enclosed to hold atmosphere. I don’t think you could rely on gravity as generated by a small machine as opposed to a planetary body to generate enough depth of gravitational field to hold atmosphere.
Kinkajou:. Probably true. But let’s move on.
Erasmus: . We believe there is definitely no life on Venus. With an average surface pressure of 100 atm, a temperature at the surface of 460°C, the presence of sulphuric acid clouds, and an atmosphere constantly in motion at over 360 km an hour. Venus has a hostile environment, unlikely to be conducive to terrestrial type life.
However even with such a claim we need to maintain an open mind. One contactee reports that the aliens told in that “they had just come from Venus”. This does not imply that they said that they were born or living on Venus. It only implies that they had been there or had recently traveled from there.
Venus
Goo: . I can see how easy it is to see what we want to see when we are looking at the evidence.
Erasmus: . Unfortunately, so, but that is the nature of our individuality and our world.
Kinkajou:. It’s pretty obvious that the description of the moon colony of the EBEs is not credible. But Venus? So tell us about why they couldn’t be Venusians?
Erasmus: . Let’s just reiterate the description above.
Venus has a thick, toxic atmosphere filled with carbon dioxide (a life inhibiting gas; except for plants). It's perpetually shrouded in opaque thick, yellowish sulphuric acid clouds that trap heat, causing a runaway greenhouse effect. It's the hottest planet in our solar system, even though Mercury is closer to the Sun. The temperature at the surface is 467 °C (872 °F), and the pressure is 93 bar (1,350 psi equivalent to approximately 100 atmospheres (ref earth)).
The winds supporting super-rotation blow at a speed of 100 m/s (360 km/h or 220 mph) or more. Winds move at up to 60 times the speed of the planet's rotation, while Earth's fastest winds are only 10% to 20% rotation speed. The upper layer of troposphere exhibits a phenomenon of super-rotation, in which the atmosphere circles the planet in just four Earth days .
The atmospheric pressure and temperature at about 50 km to 65 km above the surface of the planet is nearly the same as that of the Earth, making its upper atmosphere the most Earth-like area in the Solar System, even more so than the surface of Mars. At this height, even the air is breathable with 21% oxygen 78% nitrogen.
At depth, carbon dioxide forms 96.5% of the atmosphere and nitrogen forms 3.5% of the atmosphere.
Goo: . So, a complex situation with the depths of the planet being hostile but the upper atmosphere areas potentially capable of sustaining microbial earth life.
Kinkajou:. A number of explanations suggest themselves:
George Adamski was lying. Or
George Adamski was being lied to.
Goo: . In all fairness although a number of his claims are nonsensical, others may be legitimate.
Consider this scenario. You have been contacted by aliens. They tell you they wish to communicate with other people. They tell you facts about themselves. You begin to tell other people about your experiences. The facts the aliens tell you about themselves in the long term are revealed to be false. They fail to provide you with evidence of their meetings, (in contradiction of their statements to you). They fail to turn up when they tell you they will – leaving you high and dry.
Some people in this scenario would begin to invent stories or facts to bolster their experiences.
So we arrive at a situation that even if some of the claims are nonsensical, it is possible that other claims may be legitimate.
Kinkajou:. You need to also consider some of the hardships faced by contactees following public disclosure of the claims. “You need to realise what people go through when this happens to them, if you really think you would have guts enough to come out and tell people. Of course, nowadays it might be a little bit easier, but in the early 50s and 60s it was very very rough especially if you were working with the public in business and were trying to act like a reputable citizen”.
Goo: . Certainly the aliens are not completely forthright to us about their activities.
Kinkajou:. They told one contactee Howard Menger that they had taken him to one of our satellites
“I don’t know what they meant by that – we have only one. I think it was the moon, yes. I took a picture from the porthole – that was the “Moon” that I took a picture of.
Goo: . So at what point does the truth of the experience conflict with the falsehood of what the alien visitors may be trying to impress upon their contact.
Erasmus: . Again, it comes down to - you believe what you choose to believe. As they say on X-files: “The truth is out there, Mulder. Yes. But there are lies as well. “The aliens may well not be telling us the truth but that does not mean that what we are reporting as being said is not a true record of what was said. The key question is who was telling the lie and for what reason?
Nordic and other Aliens: Reptilians and Greys
Kinkajou:. In 1965 in San Pedro De Los Altos, a number of Nordic type aliens arrived at a farm. Meeting people there, they told them telepathically to be calm and explained they were from Orion. They had come to earth to study the psych of humans and to adapt this to their own species and to check out the possibility of interbreeding to create a new species.
They explained that they were well disposed towards human beings. However, there was another race of aliens – small Greys – visiting Earth who were less benign.
Goo: . It becomes obvious that the alien visitors appear reluctant to fully disclose their origins.
Erasmus: . A number of the statements made would be credible only to non-biologically literate morons. If their species can be interbred with ours, it becomes obvious that we are both of the same species. We are both substantially related. The DNA structure which creates us is very similar to very substantial extents. Similar enough to allow cross-fertilisation and breeding between the two human strains.
Dr Axxxx: . We are not dealing with alien aliens. We’re dealing with humans of extra-terrestrial origin. And these humans of extra-terrestrial origin have identified a biological puzzle between themselves and ourselves that they wish to assess
Dr Xxxxx: . It becomes obvious that the alien visitors are attempting to obfuscate their interest in our biology and DNA. They are also not explaining why they believe that there is some discrepancy or puzzle existing between their “species” and our “species”.
Kinkajou:. A common accusation libeled against the aliens is that they have abducted and impregnated human females. Explanations given include “we have to because as time goes by humankind will become sterile. They will not be able to reproduce”.
There have been suggestions that perhaps the aliens are also unable to reproduce without the involuntary assistance of humans.
Dr Xxxxx: . I think a far better explanation is simply based on the 0aill Spectrum theory and the consideration of chromosomal bootstrapping technology.
The reproductive and pregnancy process is different in some fashion for terrestrial humans versus non-terrestrial (EBE) human beings.
Erasmus: . The explanation ties in well with the appearance of the angels. The explanation ties in well with the development of the first man and woman – Adam and Eve, (in Bible histories Mesopotamian stories and the Epic of Gilgamesh).
The explanation ties in well with the need to control “slave” humans and the need to have a inbuilt (biological) control mechanism that is difficult to bypass. (I believe everything can be bypassed with the application of technology – but just not to make it easy is often enough. This is enough to dissuade all but the most obstinate and the most determined – our ancestors the angels with the advanced genes of what we believe to be alien origin – namely slow histamine genes, fast serotonin genes, low sensitivity opioid genes, and fast noradrenaline genes.
Theft of these genetics constituting the “original sin”.
Goo: . So just explain a bit more detail how the explanations tie in with the 0aill Spectrum disease.
Erasmus: .
Concerns about humanity becoming sterile suggests that the aliens have noticed a difference between the lifespan and health of human populations on earth and their own populations. Notable differences include a much shorter lifespan on this planet and the presence of life-threatening and life shortening diseases such as cancer and atherosclerosis on this planet.
Our DNA biology is compatible enough to be inter- fertile, so why should there be such substantial differences in the lifespan and health of the two populations. The existence of 0aill Spectrum and its related illnesses are an obvious explanation.
But 0aill Spectrum is a stealthy disease and hard enough for technological humanity to accept. The Humans of Alien Origin are unlikely to be able to solve this conundrum a visit of weeks to months to even years. Billions of human beings haven't solved this conundrum over hundreds if not thousands of years.
There would be concerns about human anger and rationality. Concerns about swings and changes in human behaviour, concerns about the existence of illnesses affecting the mind such as schizophrenia, depression, anxiety as well as a host of childhood developmental cognitive disorders such as Asperger’s/autism, developmental disorders, educational delays, anorexia and homosexuality. Again, our DNA biology is compatible enough to be inter- fertile, so why should there be such substantial differences in the behaviours and cognition of the two populations.
The existence of Paill Spectrum and its related illnesses are an obvious explanation.
The humanlike extra-terrestrial entities may well have controls placed on their own DNA to limit replication, development and fertility. These same problems do not seem to exist in the same fashion in the current human population on earth.
The genes which enabled us to develop civilisation on planet Earth are of themselves quite simple genes – their appearance in the natural or wild population on planet Earth and the similarity of the genes to extra-terrestrial human genes, would give credence to the claim that the genes have been stolen from extra-terrestrial planets and exported to planet Earth, with the consequences of creating a burgeoning human population on planet Earth.
This would be the basis of the original sin.
The bootstrap chromosome is a method whereby LLIAP- a condition in the 0aill Spectrum family illnesses guarantees a 1000% ( yes a one thousand percent at minimum) infection rate of the native human population on planet Earth. It is a trap that is easily exported to human populations in contact with planet Earth with the capacity to decimate human extra-terrestrial civilisations. No wonder some humans live permanently in giant spaceships – not on planetary surfaces. Bootstrapping can also guarantee that chromosomal changes (the proposed chromosomal) will be inherited by all offspring.
Kinkajou:. In October 1974, a human family was abducted from Essex and shown a series of films of the aliens’ genetically barren home world. They reported that they had come to earth to ensure that we did not go the same way as they had in their home. “You are our children. You are part of an experiment.”
Erasmus: . Sounds good. However turning up here and abducting a random selection and number of human beings for biological assessments is unlikely to ensure that things do not go the same way for us here on earth as they had in the aliens’ home world. It would appear that the alien statements are deliberate obfuscation of their knowledge of our biology and their interest in our biology and their knowledge of discrepancies between the biology of terrestrial human DNA and the biology of extra-terrestrial human DNA.
Kinkajou:. A common description is that the abductee wakes to find themselves in a room undergoing a medical examination.
One description: I am lying on my back on a hard surface in a dark room with bright lights shining down into my face. I felt I was being poked and prodded along the right side. Something cold touched my right arm and right side of my chest. Almost instantly my body was flooded with a cool tingling sensation. I felt extremely relaxed and surprisingly unafraid.
Aliens starting Surgery on Abductee
Some sort of large black apparatus was brought over my chest. I felt groggy as if I had been given a drug. The alien examination procedure was unlike anything I’ve ever heard about or experienced. Later I felt a sharp pain around my left knee. It’s felt wrong around my knee for quite a while. I noticed much later when I was at home that I had a scar that was an inch long in a vertical line just above the knee cap.
I don’t know how I got from the hotel room to that strange place. I must have lost consciousness.
Erasmus: . Abductees report that examination by the abductors occurs while they are in a dream state.
Goo: . What if you are doing surgical procedures, I would hope they give you an anaesthetic.
Kinkajou:. Unfortunately, they do sedate you for the procedure with what looks to be a combination of narcotic/ hallucinogens, but it looks like many did not receive generalised anaesthetic. You are probably still awake, just not remembering or coherent while being chopped up.
Another common report is that many abductees often have no conscious recollection of the abduction examination. The problem is that regression hypnotic techniques can recover lost memories, but can also recover forgotten fantasies.
Other investigators have noted that over the last few decades there has been an increased complexity and sophistication of the reports they managed to extract from a wide range of sources. It has reached the point that there is often little variation in the reports of the experiences.
Erasmus: . Perfectly understandable if you consider how much abductee individuals find themselves separated from those around them – by the strangeness of their experiences. There are a lot of negative emotions and anxiety about the abduction, the examination and the interference that has occurred to them.
And there is considerable worry about medical implications of the experiences they have had and a fear of the future. Fears exist about the possibility of mind control, possibility of implants, the presence of physical scars and as to what purpose required a surgical procedure to give them scarring and whether there was any damage to their body.
Kinkajou:. For many people the closest parallel to an ET sighting is the vision of a ghost. Witnesses of ghosts are usually alone and face a largely hostile public opinion if they disclose the event.
Goo: . I wonder whether this just suggests that people are becoming much more comfortable about telling what happened and are hiding less and less over time. People would normally seek not to report things that are too “unique.” So we are getting more information as people realise that what has happened to them has happened to many others.
Kinkajou:. In 1980 a Finnish abductee had eggs taken from her ovaries through a long tube inserted into her abdomen. She was told that the aliens were doing this to her because their race was genetically sterile but they had found in humanity an unexpectedly rich gene pool. They told her that this was helping to keep their species alive.
Dr Axxxx: . There may be some truth indirectly in the statements.
If chromosomal bootstrapping technology was present in the extra-terrestrial human population, it would have the effect of limiting reproduction and human development.
Goo: . One of the most incredible discoveries is to realise that things that we take for granted and for being inevitable, are actually not “givens”. Events or circumstances in the world that we take as normal – are actually not “normal”. They can be altered. They can be changed. There may indeed be hidden technology at work in many different ways, all around us.
To suddenly realise that you need to ask why?, is indeed a revelation.
Kinkajou:. There have been some reports in Latin America of “Greys” capturing and impregnating native women, allowing the offspring to stay with the mother until they are about six years old then repossessing the children.
Dr Xxxxx: . Whatever the purpose of the aliens may be, chromosomal bootstrapping means that the offspring of extra-terrestrial and terrestrial humans will be “affected”. There obviously is an escape from his biological dilemma. It has been solved by the angels 10,000 to 12,000 years ago with the creation of Adam and Eve. The history of the Bible and ancient texts suggest that without solving this puzzle, giant humans and humans with mutated features will be born.
Likely, specific factors would need to be "added' into the pregnancy process to "normalise" children born under biological control restraints.
Goo: . This gives human alien visitors another reason to be here. If they don't know the truth, earth's humanity is developing sufficient biological technology to allow answers to be found, if you don't have the technology to do it yourself.
I would imagine that you could purchase DNA sequencers and entire genetics laboratories and expertise for relatively little cost. Here may be where the new frontier of biological technology is . ( A population of billions and lots of problems to work out guarantee a burgeoning genetics bio-technology industry).
And remember information is easy and cheap to export, and then later to replicate.
Kinkajou:. You would wonder why they do not set up microwave or laser communications systems to their off-planet bases to formailse the bulk information export. Set yourself up as a "library", link to some amateur astronomy set up, laser link to the moon base or moon repeater station and you are in the bulk information export business.
The library could even be a legitimate library, just with some hidden automated information harvesting systems working to do "backup" at night. Libraries routinely share information, so there is not even much of an external trail of information access. The search infrastructure, could easily be just a few "operators" at isolated but linked computer workstations gathering data and auto-translating it, perhaps sending some recommendations for equipment purchase.
The "operators" do not even need to know they are working for aliens. All you need is a story that they are working secretly for a foreign government or industry. Few humans would ask any more questions with that sort of a cover story.
Goo: . A scary list of possibilities. But all very realistically possible in a communications linked world.
Kinkajou:. Other alien visitors tell us that they are concerned about us because humanity is progressing scientifically at breakneck pace. Some people believe today that aliens have helped us on our way.
Erasmus: . Ridiculous! Current actions on the part of our visitors suggest that this “help” or “symbiosis” does not exist. The warnings that the aliens give to the human race – parallel concerns of existing environmental groups. Why tell ordinary people about impending doom when these ordinary people cannot do anything about it other than worry about the consequences.
Goo: . Strangely the alien messages always seem to parallel existing human concerns. One commonly finds in abductees – a deep passion for ecological responsibility and an awareness of environmental problems. If humankind carries on in its current course, it is heading for total extinction.
The problem of course is while these messages have a resonance with the human population and are problems of popular consideration amongst the human population, why would the aliens have any awareness or concern of what are fundamentally popular "human" concerns in the general human terrestrial population?
Erasmus: . Now that is interesting. It suggests that the messages have a terrestrial human origin. The trend in the 50s and 60s seemed to be that many aliens dropped by to deliver doom laden lectures to hapless contactees. I suppose we should consider ourselves fortunate that most ETs seem determined to avoid any contact.
Nonetheless, the messages of doom are at least consistent with the modern era. Up until the 60s and 70s, many people in the world were concerned about the environmental catastrophe due to “global cooling”. The build-up of the Antarctic ice mass would destabilise the rotation of the planet resulting in a catastrophic movement of the ice sheet, tidal waves criss-crossing the planet, changes in world ocean levels and a change in planetary rotation.
Kinkajou:. At least the ET’s in the early days came with the more modern story of global warming/climate change.
Goo: . ET’s or humans, creating this message?
Kinkajou:. Another interesting modern phenomenon is the appearance of a “spatial dilation” as a UFO phenomenon. This is a definite TARDIS phenomenon, (from the famous Doctor Who TV series). It has started to become a little more “popular” to witnesses in this modern era.
I think the first reports were in 1961 or 1962 in France. The contactees reports that the interior of the cylinder seem to be about 6 m in diameter which was about four times the diameter apparent from the exterior.
Dr Who : Tardis
> (usually a blue box).
Goo: . So the first reports of this phenomenon predate the Doctor Who TV series.
Erasmus: . Yes so maybe the TV series took up this popular technology from the contactees not vice versa. The aliens came to planet Earth, watch Doctor Who on TV, and decided that they needed this technology, which obviously the humans had already.
Goo: . Human beings do not have the technology to spatially dilate small spaces at this time. If the spatial dilation is truly witnessed you would have to wonder whether it is a real technological advancement or just a trick of smoke and mirrors.
Kinkajou:. . There was another similar report in January 1974 in a place called Clifton Bore in South Australia. The contactee were shown a ship about 6 m long and 1.3 m high but when he looked inside he found his astonishment that the interior of the ship was vast. “You could have fitted a full-size battleship inside”. Inside there were 20 beings.
Erasmus: . The only technologies we have today to create the sense of internal space are probably due to distorted mirrors. The most common example is the driver’s rear view mirror in a car. In most modern vehicles this is a concave mirror, and it gives the perspective that the following car is a lot further away than it really is.
As soon as the car begins to merge lanes, and the driver looks in the cabin rear view mirror which is planar, the driver suddenly realises that the car behind them is actually a lot closer than he really thought. It is an important piece of technology applied in our environment, because it encourages people to drive a little bit more aggressively – but safely.
Our modern cities are crowded enough that people do need to make decisions to move or change lanes – even in slightly tight situations.
Mirrors reflecting each other show an infinite diminishing set of pictures of a single person, but looking like a cast of thousands. add a bit of distortion or non-linearity, some holograms and it may be hard to realise you are being duped into accepting a false reality.
Kinkajou:. Back to the creation of bigger on the inside than the outside. How?
Erasmus: . If it is true, I have no concept of a technology which could in reality do this. The basic problem is that the very atoms of our being would need to be compressed or decompressed – in effect creating space. In entering a craft such as the TARDIS, there would need to be a compression decompression line as it entered or left the compressed space.
Goo: . Perhaps there is another viewpoint. The universe we know is expanding and will expand forever. As it expands – space is created. So it may not be that we are compressing smaller but that we are expanding our environment larger.
Erasmus: . An unusual technology which is not on mankind’s horizon. Currently I would say it is either a smoke and mirrors effect or bullshit. However I suppose with truly advanced science, maybe something of the sort is possible. But the energy is involved to create this type of “spatial dilation”, you would suspect would have to be immense.
Perhaps gravity is involved here. Gravity is a displacement. So perhaps it displaces our internal space outwards – in effect expanding the space we experience.
Goo: . I suppose it could be possible. But it sounds lethal. I think there may be other factors involved here.
Erasmus: . I agree. Obfuscation rules!
Erasmus: . A different conclusion can be made when the alien messages focus on information that can be seen to be different to the concerns of the general terrestrial human population, messages which are not part of the general terrestrial human milieu. In giving us a message about ourselves, they are giving us a message about their own beliefs, technology and understanding.
Goo: . Can you suggest an example?
Erasmus: . Yes. When the aliens talk about the human race becoming sterile or developing cancer, they are telling us that they believe terrestrial humanity has impaired fertility and suffers from diseases or conditions which are not at all common in their experience.
Kinkajou:. So what does that suggest?
Erasmus: . It suggests that there are things happening here that do not happen to humans in other places, (such as extra-terrestrial humans).
Kinkajou:. And what might this be?
Erasmus: . Well the most obvious conclusion is that a disease or condition such as Paill Spectrum and its related family of illnesses affect human reproduction, fertility and increase the cancer risk.
And these concerns are exactly what you expect if you realise that there are sources of intracellular DNA present within terrestrial humans that should not be there. Intracellular DNA which has biological effects on human cell growth and replication. Intracellular DNA which has effects on the human immune system. In short, things happening for a reason.
Kinkajou:. I think you would have to wonder about the alien modus operandi in communicating with us as well, wouldn’t you?
Erasmus: . In almost all abductions, the subject is given a message to spread to the rest of humanity about the error of our ways and a dire warning that if we do not change, the human race will suffer extinction. But when the message is given to an abductee, why don’t the aliens select someone who is credible and professionally qualified to understand their message and to act on their warning.
To me, the passing of these messages is almost grandstanding. The purpose is to make a mockery of the person who “outs” themselves as an alien contactee.
They come here saying they here to save us. However when the reactor at Chernobyl melted down, a disk allegedly was seen to be observing the proceedings. Yet they did nothing. It is not the kind of behaviour expect from friends who care about you.
The Commandant: . The reality is that the simplistic solutions of the space brothers/ brethren do look appealing to many humans. Peace on earth and don’t use atomic weapons sounds good. But how do you implement such a solution in a fragmented and complex world. Wishing for peace does not solve competition for resources or influence, problems of overpopulation, and military conflicts with in the world of today- often with complex underlying aetiology.
Erasmus: . Yes aliens give seemingly wise advice – but totally inappropriate to be given by creatures with no understanding of the issues and their aetiology and understanding of the complexity of the situations which allow problems to perpetuate themselves.
Kinkajou:. We also have a problem in believing what many “witnesses” say.
Erasmus: . That is true. Paill Spectrum is a problem for credibility. No matter how sincere a witness may be, no matter how clear the experience may be in his or her mind, he or she may still nevertheless be mistaken. Ideas and pictures can take hold in people’s minds from illness. But people do tell the truth as they see it or remember it. However Paill spectrum distorts both memory and belief.
And the aliens are like to tell lies as well.
Dr Xxxxx: . Fortunately, it is usually fairly easy to pick a significantly affected person, (with Paill Spectrum). Lights out – no one home. Flat effect. Poor memory, anger and irritability. Weird intense beliefs – contrary to objective reality. You can usually pick when the disease is in high action mode.
Blanked Kid: ? 0aill Spectrum
Kinkajou:. Shouldn’t there be a law against doing some of these things?
Erasmus: . There should be a law against some of the things that have been done to the human race. There should be laws which prevent more evolved or technological races from interfering in the evolution and development of more backward people and civilisations. I think every race deserves to be the maker of its own progress, paying for progress with its own sacrifices, choosing and making its own failures and victories.
The Commandant: . But the reality is the Fermi paradox.
Goo: . What’s that?
Erasmus: . There should be many alien civilisations abutting us. Yet paradoxically there is not. The conclusion is that commonality and cooperation are not features of many intelligent races. A keen awareness of competition, more likely is. A concern for the risks of cooperation and assistance. A consideration of the harm that could be for you if you become involved in the affairs of others.
These are all reasons underlying the Fermi paradox. An alien civilisation is more likely to consider you a competitor and a threat, than someone to help. As a result – there are few other alien civilisations successfully existing and persisting.
Kinkajou:. Once it is obvious that such a civilisation exists, it is only a matter of time before it under goes exponential development and exponential technology growth. A civilisation must be managed or controlled before this necessity arises. The Fermi paradox suggested alien races realise this and early on take action to limit their risk from exposure to other civilisations such as humanity on earth.
Goo: . A chilling appraisal of humanity’s danger in our little backwater in the galaxy.